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Spielgrips
11.10.04, 13:37
Hi,

ich habe ein Problem, seit Suse Linux 9.1 geht das wechseln zu anderen Desktope irgendwie nicht. Bei meiner anderen Version 8.1/.2 war eine kleine Auswahl am Anfang, z.b gnome, kde, xfce4 und die Auswahl bei Suse Linux 9.1 gibs am Anfang nicht mehr und ich weiß nicht wie ich wechseln soll??

Hab schon unter Kontrollzentrum > Systemverwalter > Anmeldemanager geguckt, aber da ist nix drüber :(!

Kann mir einer helfen??

Ako
11.10.04, 13:46
Wenn du KDM benutzt müsste bei der Anmeldung doch unten Menü stehen!
Da auf Sitzungsart und wählen.

PS: Heist es nicht Desktops ?

Spielgrips
11.10.04, 13:52
Bei Menü steht nur:

> X - Server neustarten
> Beenden

Aber keine Sitzungsart :)!

Arounder
11.10.04, 13:55
ich will dich ja jetzt nicht als dumm verkaufen;
aber hast du Gnome, fvwm etc installiert?

KDM scheinst du ja installiert zu haben..
Hast du vielleicht die Automatische Anmeldung an?

Spielgrips
11.10.04, 13:57
Also:

Automatische Anmeldung habe ich ausgeschaltet und .rpm's für xfce4 habe ich alle installiert :)!

carnil
11.10.04, 14:15
Hi

Hast Du Suse 9.1 Personal? Ich glaube mal darüber gelesen zu haben, dass genau dasselbe Problem auch andere hatten, versuche mal die Suchfunktion mit suse kdm personal zu füttern, vielleicht springt da was sinnvolles heraus:
Zusätzlich gäbe es noch dies:
http://www.linuxforen.de/forums/showthread.php?t=148589&highlight=suse+personal+kdm
http://www.linuxforen.de/forums/showthread.php?t=145926&highlight=suse+personal+kdm und dort die Lösung von Thomas_Mitzkat, die dort geholfen hatte.

Hoffe das kann Dir irgendwie weiterhelfen. Alternativ könnte man versuchen einen alternativen Anmeldungsmanager zu installieren, gdm zum Beispiel. Dort ist die Konfiguration "relativ" einfach über die gdm.conf und .desktop Dateien.

MfG carnil

Spielgrips
11.10.04, 15:09
Also...

In /opt/kde3/share/config/kdm/kdmrc:

Gibs kein SessionTypes Eintrag.!



# KDM master configuration file
#
# Definition: the greeter is the login dialog, i.e., the part of KDM
# which the user sees.
#
# You can configure every X-display individually.
# Every display has a display name, which consists of a host name
# (which is empty for local displays specified in the Xservers file),
# a colon and a display number. Additionally, a display belongs to a
# display class (which can be ignored in most cases; the control center
# does not support this feature at all).
# Sections with display-specific settings have the formal syntax
# "[X-" host [":" number [ "_" class ]] "-" sub-section "]"
# You can use the "*" wildcard for host, number and class. You may omit
# trailing components; they are assumed to be "*" then.
# The host part may be a domain specification like ".inf.tu-dresden.de".
# From which section a setting is actually taken is determined by these
# rules:
# - an exact match takes precedence over a partial match (for the host part),
# which in turn takes precedence over a wildcard
# - precedence decreases from left to right for equally exact matches
# Example: display name "myhost:0", class "dpy".
# [X-myhost:0_dpy] precedes
# [X-myhost:0_*] (same as [X-myhost:0]) precedes
# [X-myhost:*_dpy] precedes
# [X-myhost:*_*] (same as [X-myhost]) precedes
# [X-*:0_dpy] precedes
# [X-*:0_*] (same as [X-*:0]) precedes
# [X-*:*_*] (same as [X-*])
# These sections do NOT match this display:
# [X-hishost], [X-myhost:0_dec], [X-*:1], [X-:*]
# If a setting is not found in any matching section, the default is used.
#
# Every comment applies to the following section or key. Note, that all
# comments will be lost if you change this file with the kcontrol frontend.
# The defaults refer to KDM's built-in values, not anything set in this file.
#

[General]
# This option exists solely for the purpose of a clean automatic upgrade.
# Don't even think about changing it!
ConfigVersion=2.1
# If the value starts with a slash (/), it specifies the file, where X-servers
# to be used by KDM are listed; the file is in the usual XDM-Xservers format.
# Otherwise it's interpreted like one line of the Xservers file, i.e., it
# specifies exactly one X-server.
# Default is ":0 local@tty1 /usr/X11R6/bin/X -nolisten tcp vt7"
# XXX i'm planning to absorb this file into kdmrc, but i'm not sure how to
# do this best.
Xservers=/opt/kde3/share/config/kdm/Xservers
# Where KDM should store its PID. Default is "" (don't store)
PidFile=/var/run/kdm.pid
# Whether KDM should lock the pid file to prevent having multiple KDM
# instances running at once. Leave it "true", unless you're brave.
#LockPidFile=false
# Where to store authorization files. Default is /var/run/xauth
#AuthDir=/tmp
# Whether KDM should automatically re-read configuration files, if it
# finds them having changed. Just keep it "true".
#AutoRescan=false
# Additional environment variables KDM should pass on to kdm_config, kdm_greet,
# Xsetup, Xstartup, Xsession, and Xreset. LD_LIBRARY_PATH and XCURSOR_THEME are
# good candidates; otherwise it shouldn't be necessary very often.
#ExportList=SOME_VAR,ANOTHER_IMPORTANT_VAR
# Where the command FiFos should be created. Make it empty to disable
# the FiFos. Default is /var/run/xdmctl
#FifoDir=/tmp
# To which group the command FiFos should belong.
# Default is -1 (effectively root)
#FifoGroup=xdmctl
# The directory kdm should store persistent working data in.
# Default is /var/lib/kdm
#DataDir=/var/lib/kdm
# The directory kdm should store users' .dmrc files in. This is only needed
# if the home directories are not readable before actually logging in (like
# with AFS). Default is ""
#DmrcDir=/nfs-shared/var/dmrcs

[Xdmcp]
# Whether KDM should listen to XDMCP requests. Default is true.
Enable=false
# The UDP port KDM should listen on for XDMCP requests. Don't change the 177.
#Port=177
# File with the private keys of X-terminals. Required for XDM authentication.
# Default is ""
#KeyFile=/opt/kde3/share/config/kdm/kdmkeys
# XDMCP access control file in the usual XDM-Xaccess format.
# Default is /opt/kde3/share/config/kdm/Xaccess
# XXX i'm planning to absorb this file into kdmrc, but i'm not sure how to
# do this best.
#Xaccess=
# Number of seconds to wait for display to respond after the user has
# selected a host from the chooser. Default is 15.
#ChoiceTimeout=10
# Strip domain name from remote display names if it is equal to the local
# domain. Default is true
#RemoveDomainname=false
# Use the numeric IP address of the incoming connection instead of the
# host name. Use this on multihomed hosts. Default is false
#SourceAddress=true
# The program which is invoked to dynamically generate replies to XDMCP
# BroadcastQuery requests.
# By default no program is invoked and "Willing to manage" is sent.
Willing=/opt/kde3/share/config/kdm/Xwilling

[Shutdown]
# The command to run to halt the system. Default is /sbin/halt
#HaltCmd=
# The command to run to reboot the system. Default is /sbin/reboot
#RebootCmd=
# Whether one can shut down the system via the global command FiFo.
# Default is false
#AllowFifo=true
# Whether one can abort still running sessions when shutting down the system
# via the global command FiFo. Default is true
#AllowFifoNow=false
# Offer LiLo boot options in shutdown dialog. Default is false
#UseLilo=true
# The location of the LiLo binary. Default is /sbin/lilo
#LiloCmd=
# The location of the LiLo map file. Default is /boot/map
#LiloMap=

# Rough estimations about how many seconds KDM will spend at most on
# - opening a connection to the X-server (OpenTime):
# OpenRepeat * (OpenTimeout + OpenDelay)
# - starting a local X-server (ServerTime):
# ServerAttempts * (ServerTimeout + OpenDelay)
# - starting a display:
# - local display: ServerTime + OpenTime
# - foreign display: StartAttempts * OpenTime
# - xdmcp display: OpenTime (repeated indefinitely by client)

# Core config for all displays
[X-*-Core]
# How long to wait before retrying to start the display after various
# errors. Default is 15
#OpenDelay=
# How long to wait before timing out XOpenDisplay. Default is 120
#OpenTimeout=
# How often to try the XOpenDisplay. Default is 5
#OpenRepeat=
# Try at most that many times to start a display. If this fails, the display
# is disabled. Default is 4
#StartAttempts=
# Ping remote display every that many minutes. Default is 5
#PingInterval=
# Wait for a Pong that many minutes. Default is 5
#PingTimeout=
# Restart instead of resetting the local X-server after session exit.
# Use it if the server leaks memory, etc. Default is false
#TerminateServer=true
# The signal needed to reset the local X-server. Default is 1 (SIGHUP)
#ResetSignal=
# The signal needed to terminate the local X-server. Default is 15 (SIGTERM)
#TermSignal=
# Need to reset the X-server to make it read initial Xauth file.
# Default is false
#ResetForAuth=true
# Create X-authorizations for local displays. Default is true
#Authorize=false
# Which X-authorization mechanisms should be used.
# Default is MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1
#AuthNames=
# The name of this X-server's Xauth file. Default is "", which means, that
# a random name in the AuthDir directory will be used.
#AuthFile=
# Specify a file with X-resources for the greeter, chooser and background.
# The KDE frontend doesn't care for this, so you don't need it unless you
# use an alternative chooser or another background generator than kdmdesktop.
# Default is ""
#Resources=
# The xrdb program to use to read the above specified recources.
# Default is /usr/X11R6/bin/xrdb
#Xrdb=
# A program to run before the greeter is shown. You should start kdmdesktop
# there. Also, xconsole can be started by this script.
# Default is ""
Setup=/opt/kde3/share/config/kdm/Xsetup
# A program to run before a user session starts. You should invoke sessreg
# there and optionally change the ownership of the console, etc.
# Default is ""
Startup=/opt/kde3/share/config/kdm/Xstartup
# A program to run after a user session exits. You should invoke sessreg
# there and optionally change the ownership of the console, etc.
# Default is ""
Reset=/opt/kde3/share/config/kdm/Xreset
# The program which is run as the user which logs in. It is supposed to
# interpret the session argument (see SessionsDirs) and start an appropriate
# session according to it.
# Default is /usr/X11R6/bin/xterm -ls -T
Session=/opt/kde3/share/config/kdm/Xsession
# The program to run if Session fails.
# Default is /usr/X11R6/bin/xterm
#FailsafeClient=
# The PATH for the Session program. Default is
# /usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/games
UserPath=/opt/kde3/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/games
# The PATH for Setup, Startup and Reset, etc. Default is
# /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin
SystemPath=/opt/kde3/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin
# The default system shell. Default is /bin/sh
#SystemShell=/bin/bash
# Where to put the user's X-server authorization file if ~/.Xauthority
# cannot be created. Default is /tmp
#UserAuthDir=
# If "true", KDM will automatically restart a session after an X-server
# crash (or if it is killed by Alt-Ctrl-BackSpace). Note, that enabling
# this opens a security hole: a secured display lock can be circumvented
# (unless you use KDE's built-in screen lock). Default is false
#AutoReLogin=true
# Allow root logins? Default is true
AllowRootLogin=false
# Allow to log in, when user has set an empty password? Default is true
AllowNullPasswd=false
# Who is allowed to shut down the system. This applies both to the
# greeter and to the command FiFo. Default is All
# "None" - no "Shutdown..." button is shown at all
# "Root" - the root password must be entered to shut down
# "All" - everybody can shut down the machine (Default)
AllowShutdown=Root
# Who is allowed to abort all still running sessions when shutting down.
# Same options as for AllowShutdown. Default is All
#AllowSdForceNow=Root
# The default choice for the shutdown condition/timing.
# "Schedule" - shutdown after all sessions exit (possibly at once) (Default)
# "TryNow" - shutdown, if no sessions are open, otherwise do nothing
# "ForceNow" - shutdown unconditionally
#DefaultSdMode=ForceNow
# If this is false the user must select the shutdown condition/timing already
# in the shutdown dialog. If this is true he won't be bothered with the options,
# but will be asked what to do if sessions are actually open. Default is true
# NOTE: the interaction is currently not implemented. If this is set to true,
# a normal forced shutdown will happen (without caring for the AllowSdForceNow
# option!), i.e., KDM will behave exactly as before KDE 3.0.
#InteractiveSd=false
# The directories containing session type definitions in .desktop format.
# Default is /opt/kde3/share/apps/kdm/sessions
#SessionsDirs=/etc/X11/sessions,/usr/share/xsessions

# Greeter config for all displays
[X-*-Greeter]
# Widget style of the greeter. "" means the built-in default which currently
# is "Keramik". Default is ""
#GUIStyle=Windows
# Widget color scheme of the greeter. "" means the built-in default which
# currently is quite greyish. Default is ""
#ColorScheme=Pumpkin
# What should be shown righthand of the input lines:
# "Logo" - the image specified by LogoPixmap (Default)
# "Clock" - a neat analog clock
# "None" - nothing
#LogoArea=None
# The image to show when LogoArea=Logo. Default is kdelogo.png
#LogoPixmap=
# Normally, the greeter is centered on the screen. Use this, if you want
# it to appear elsewhere on the screen. Default is false
#GreeterPosFixed=true
#GreeterPosX=200
#GreeterPosY=100
# The headline in the greeter.
# The following character pairs are replaced:
# - %d -> current display
# - %h -> host name, possibly with domain name
# - %n -> node name, most probably the host name without domain name
# - %s -> the operating system
# - %r -> the operating system's version
# - %m -> the machine (hardware) type
# - %% -> a single %
# Default is "Welcome to %s at %n"
#GreetString=K Desktop Environment (%n)
# The font for the headline. Default is charter,24,bold
#GreetFont=charter,20,5,0,50,0
# The normal font used in the greeter. Default is helvetica,12
#StdFont=helvetica,10,5,0,50,0
# The font used for the "Login Failed" message. Default is helvetica,12,bold
#FailFont=helvetica,10,5,0,75,0
# Whether the fonts shown in the greeter should be antialiased. Default is false
#AntiAliasing=true
# What to do with the Num Lock modifier for the time the greeter is running:
# "On" -> - turn on
# "Off" -> - turn off
# "Keep" -> - don't change the state (Default)
#NumLock=Off
# Language to use in the greeter. Default is en_US
#Language=de_DE
# Specify, which user names (along with pictures) should be shown in the
# greeter.
# "NotHidden" - all users except those listed in HiddenUsers (Default)
# "Selected" - only the users listed in SelectedUsers
# "None" - no user list will be shown at all
#ShowUsers=None
# For ShowUsers=Selected. Default is ""
#SelectedUsers=root,johndoe
# For ShowUsers=NotHidden. Default is ""
#HiddenUsers=root
# Special case of HiddenUsers: users with a UID less than this number
# (except root) will not be shown as well. Default is 0
MinShowUID=500
# Complement to MinShowUID: users with a UID greater than this number will
# not be shown as well. Default is 65535
MaxShowUID=65000
# If false, the users are listed in the order they appear in /etc/passwd.
# If true, they are sorted alphabetically. Default is true
#SortUsers=false
# Specify, where the users' pictures should be taken from.
# "AdminOnly" - from <FaceDir>/$USER.face[.icon] (Default)
# "UserOnly" - from the user's $HOME/.face[.icon]
# "PreferAdmin" - prefer <FaceDir>, fallback on $HOME
# "PreferUser" - ... and the other way round
#FaceSource=PreferUser
# The directory containing the user images if FaceSource is not UserOnly.
# Default is /opt/kde3/share/apps/kdm/faces
#FaceDir=/usr/share/faces
# Specify, if/which user should be preselected for log in.
# Note, that enabling this feature can be considered a security hole,
# as it presents a valid login name to a potential attacker, so he "only"
# needs to guess the password.
# "None" - don't preselect any user (Default)
# "Previous" - the user which successfully logged in last time
# "Default" - the user specified in the DefaultUser field
#PreselectUser=Previous
# The user to preselect if PreselectUser=Default
#DefaultUser=ethel
# If this is true, the password input line is focused automatically if
# a user is preselected. Default is false
#FocusPasswd=true
# The password input fields cloak the typed in text. Specify, how to do it:
# "NoEcho" - nothing is shown at all, the cursor doesn't move
# "OneStar" - "*" is shown for every typed letter (Default)
# "ThreeStars" - "***" is shown for every typed letter
#EchoMode=NoEcho
# If true, krootimage will be automatically started by KDM. Otherwise, the
# Setup script should be used to setup the background. Default is true
#UseBackground=false
# The configuration file to be used by krootimage.
# Default is /opt/kde3/share/config/kdm/backgroundrc
#BackgroundCfg=
# Hold the X-server grabbed the whole time the greeter is visible. This
# may be more secure, but it will disable any background and other
# X-clients started from the Setup script. Default is false
#GrabServer=true
# How many seconds to wait for grab to succeed. Default is 3
#GrabTimeout=
# Use this number as a random seed when forging saved session types, etc. of
# unknown users. This is used to avoid telling an attacker about existing users
# by reverse conclusion. This value should be random but constant across the
# login domain. Default is 0
ForgingSeed=1097497264
# Specify greeter plugins that can be used to obtain authentication data.
# This can be a plugin's base name (expands to $kde_modulesdir/kgreet_$base)
# or a full pathname. Default is classic
#PluginsLogin=sign
# Same as PluginsLogin, but for the shutdown dialog.
#PluginsShutdown=modern
# A list of options of the form Key=Value. The conversation plugins can query
# these settings; it's up to them what possible keys are.
#PluginOptions=SomeKey=randomvalue,Foo=bar
# Show the "Console Login" action in the greeter (when the respective @tty
# entry exists in Xservers). Default is true
#AllowConsole=false

# Core config for local displays
[X-:*-Core]
# How often to try to run the X-server. Running includes executing it and
# waiting for it to come up. Default is 1
#ServerAttempts=
# How long to wait for a local X-server to come up. Default is 15
#ServerTimeout=
# See above
AllowShutdown=All
# See above
AllowRootLogin=true
# See above
AllowNullPasswd=true
# Enable password-less logins on this display. USE WITH EXTREME CARE!
# Default is false
#NoPassEnable=true
# The users that don't need to provide a password to log in. NEVER list root!
# Default is ""
#NoPassUsers=fred,ethel

# Greeter config for local displays
[X-:*-Greeter]
# Warn, if local X-authorization cannot be created. Default is true
# XXX this is a dummy currently
#AuthComplain=false
# The screen the greeter should be displayed on in multi-headed setups.
# The numbering starts with 0 and corresponds to the listing order in the
# active ServerLayout section of XF86Config. -1 means to use the upper-left
# screen, -2 means to use the upper-right screen. Default is 0
#GreeterScreen=-1
# Specify whether the greeter of local displays should start up in host chooser
# (remote) or login (local) mode and whether it is allowed to switch to the
# other mode.
# "LocalOnly" - only local login possible (Default)
# "RemoteOnly" - only choice of remote host possible
# "DefaultLocal" - start up in local mode, but allow switch to remote mode
# "DefaultRemote" - ... and the other way round
LoginMode=DefaultLocal
# A list of hosts to be automatically added to the remote login menu. The
# special name "*" means broadcast. Default is "*"
#ChooserHosts=*,ugly,sky,dino,kiste.local,login.cr ap.com
# Show the "Restart X Server"/"Close Connection" action in the greeter.
# Default is true
AllowClose=false

# Core config for 1st local display
[X-:0-Core]
# Enable automatic login on this display. USE WITH EXTREME CARE!
# Default is false
#AutoLoginEnable=true
# The user to log in automatically. NEVER specify root! Default is ""
#AutoLoginUser=fred
# The password for the user to log in automatically. This is NOT required
# unless the user is to be logged into a NIS or Kerberos domain. If you use
# it, you should "chmod 600 kdmrc" for obvious reasons. Default is ""
#AutoLoginPass=secret!

# Greeter config for 1st local display
[X-:0-Greeter]
# See above
#PreselectUser=Default
# See above
#DefaultUser=johndoe
# Enable KDM's built-in xconsole. Note, that this can be enabled for only
# one display at a time. Default is false
ShowLog=true
# The data source for KDM's built-in xconsole. The default "" means that
# a console log redirection should be requested from /dev/console.
LogSource=/dev/xconsole


Ich bin noch Anfänger in Linux ...

kyromoto
12.10.04, 16:37
Also ich habe fast das selbe Problem.

Ich habe zwar kde und die standart mässigen wie tvwm etc installiert und die kann man auch auswählen, aber wie bekommt man in dieses Menü neue einträge hinein. XFCE4 ist mein Wunsch!
Ach ja ich habe ne suse 9.1 professional!

finbar
02.11.04, 16:42
n der Konfiguration von kdm ist bei suse 9,1 personal eingestellt, dass das Sitzungsartmenu nicht angzeigt wird. Deshalb muss diese Einstellung in /etc/opt/kde3/share/config/kdm/kdmrc geändert werden:
[X-:*-Greeter]
AdminSession=YaSTadminSession
HideMenu=True
in:
[X-:*-Greeter]
AdminSession=YaSTadminSession
HideMenu=false

Ausserdem muss das Menu Sitzungsart noch eingefügt werden:
[X-*-Greeter]
SelectedUsers=
SessionTypes=default,gnome,kde,icewm,failsafe
ShowUsers=NotHidden

Hier können auch noch andere Windowmanager eingefügt werden.

Ich habe als absoluter LinuxNewbie alle möglichen Foren und Manpages durchsucht und bin endlich fündig geworden:
http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/ptopic25579.html v.A. das Post von shaintand!

Hoffentlich Klappts bei Euch